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Missing PETA members
by cypressfarms (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:47:14 GMT)
jedstivers wrote:I got distracted by the other pics on that page.

Me too; I'd much rather look at those than some PETA tree hugger that's tied to a tree.

Maybe the caption should read; "see what happens when you hug trees!"

How Can I Remove Decals From My Truck
by bbirder (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:45:59 GMT)
Try Goo-Gone.

Predators
by cypressfarms (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:40:32 GMT)
cow pollinater wrote:I don't know what I'd do with a wolf pack.

Maybe SSS?

Bagged mineral vs. Block
by tsmaxx47 (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:38:09 GMT)
wtrapp wrote:Used the Block at one time but only bag mineral now. My cattle seem to have a better coat now and shed off quicker in spring.

ditto

Ladies on the CT Board . . .
by Caustic Burno (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:31:45 GMT)
pdfangus wrote:I am with Calman....
I am not worried about me anymore....
even if i am ignorant....
but with the dumbed down and liberal education system
and news media that has morphed into a politburo....
and a constant bombarment of all things liberal not just homosexuality....
it is not my morals and way of life that I fear for......
it is those of the country I have loved all my life.
repeat any lie often enough and it becomes the truth.....
where did I hear that before ???? hmmmh
and now for twenty years or more the mantra has been tolerance and acceptance.
Cow Pollinator, I agree that you seem to have a conservative viewpoint....
but you not watching a show makes no difference when millions of impressionable minds do watch it.

Many parents do a terriffic job and I run into good bright well mannered kids....
but they are a minority, and I do not live in a metropolitan area.

My wife watch some of this trash teevee....but she watche it because she is amazed at the behavior and conduct and expectations these people have....

twenty years ago Limbaugh caleed it "the endless tide of human debris.."
problem is they get to vote just like you and I.....

A nation lacking in morals and standards
and tolerant of all deviance
can not long endure....
our tolerance of deviance is more and more being legislated and mandated and crammed down our throats all in the name of freedom

best definition I ever heard of freedom is
I am free to swing my fist all about in the air any way I want to...
but my freedom ends where your nose begins...
I have gotten to the age where I am tired of being punched in the nose by politicians and media especially when they are constantly adovcating picking my pocket to fund their causes.

This is just a repeat of history.

From the Choir a big Amen.

Hay Wrappers?
by Angus Cowman (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:31:01 GMT)
I have done it for the last couple of yrs I think we did around 800 bales this yr
I have wrapped Oats,Millets and Rye and the cows love it all
Jed and I bought our own wrapper last yr it is a single bale wrapper which I prefer because it gives me more feeding options as to when and how much I have to feed over a inline wrapper plus there is less chance with spoilage on the single wrapped bales if you get a tear which you will

If buying a new single wrapper I would get the type that the plastic wrap goes around the bale instead of the bale table spinning they looks like the are more efficient and the one I seen you could also use two rolls of plastic on so it sped up the wrapping process

I think McHale was the brand I seen
if you go to YouTube and search fro sileage wrapping there is 100s of videos of different type of wrappers
Vermeer,Kuhn,Mchale all sell them and I am sure there are several others
ours is a Parmiter which got bought by another company but they all are basically the same machine

Would you condider this bull good for heiffers?
by cypressfarms (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:26:40 GMT)
vclavin wrote: About 30-60 days before calving, we feed heifers and cows twice a day and last feeding at 8:30 pm. They receive about 5-8lbs of 12% high fiber feed with free choice hay. They calve at 7-8 BCS and have no problems, calves are born from 65-92lbs with an occasional 98lb (rare) , Haven't pulled a calf since 2006 and it was a bull with front leg under him.
Good luck.
Valerie

We'll have to agree to disagree......I never like first time heifers calving fat. Too much risk for problems. a 7-8 BCS is asking for problems, in my opinion. What's the harm in having them calve at 5 BCS, and not risking the potential loss of a calf or moma? Again, I'll respectfully have to disagree with you. I watched a man one year who had bought a truckload of bred Angus based commercial heifers. He let them graze very lush ryegrass pastures for a few months before they calved, and the result was a train wreck. He lost over a third of the calves, and about 10% of the momas. They were bred to a low birthweight Angus bull also - not like they were bred to a pallet headed Charolais...

JMHO....

Flighty Heifer?
by cow pollinater (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:24:31 GMT)
I've had alot of cattle that will pick up and GO when you come out to see them calve. I don't doubt that you waiting around and watching on a heifer that already didn't like people didn't help much.
IF you had stepped in sooner you MAY have been able to do something but I never do. I always try to let her do it on on her own first. I'm not trying to blame you but some cattle have to be left alone and it sounds like she may be one of them... Ship her and get something quiet that will work for you.

Digitaria swasilandensis
by whitewing (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:20:53 GMT)
Cabo wrote:Whitewing, in my area, no matter how high the protein or how digestable it is if its not bermuda the horse people don't consider it to be "horse hay".

I hear ya.

Since posting this thread I've actually made a couple of thousand bales of the stuff. I checked the sheds today....empty!

While everyone asks if I've still got bermuda, they buy the swasi as a second choice. I'll post a thread with lots of pics of my swasi adventures.

Feed trough ideas
by highgrit (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:13:35 GMT)
Plastic barrels cut in half and bolted together, and the tires bolted to them, sound almost bull proof. Think I might try one myself.

I've been losing money
by cypressfarms (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:00:25 GMT)
inbredredneck wrote:cypress you as the producer first must obtain the grass fed label from the FSIS.

This sounds like red tape....... I hate red tape.

No I haven't adjusted my prices. The people that have been buying from me will receive the same deal. Maybe new customers will pay a premium

Canadian EPD's vs American EPD's (Blk Angus)
by Brightview (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:29:24 GMT)
Robert, the Canadian Black Angus breed values are also calculated by ABRI here in Oz. It appears that the only major breed organisation that does NOT use the ABRI model is the AAA and that is due to the slight variation involving intellectual ownership. AAA as an association owns the information while ABRI will crunch the numbers but the breeder owns the information.

Some Hereford Photos For You
by jhambley (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:20:26 GMT)
Thanks for everyone's comments.

JH

Australian Talk.
by Suzie Q (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:06:43 GMT)
We went into Ipswich yesterday. Hubby had a catscan. The Doctors think he has sinusitis. We have studied the xrays and there is a black line more around one side of his 'nose' than the other, so hopefully it is sinusitis and not something worse.

We arrived a little early and went shopping at Supercheap and I bought a solar water fountain for $34.00, then hubby had a card that he picked up at Farmfest last year and we had discounts on everything we bought, so it was actually less.

I have been wanting a water fountain but the ones that come all ready made are over the $100.00 mark or $200 or $300 if you want a tall one. This one is a floating one with 3 different spouts for different effects. My friend is giving me a large plastic container for a water garden, but I will have to wait for this rain to stop, so I can go and collect it with the ute.

We also picked up two hats with lights in them for $9.99 each. One for hubby and one for our friend when they are doing hay. It makes any job easier at night. They are so light you don't really know you have them on your head and you can do anything hands free. Anything except look at your friend when you are talking to them as that blinds them.

Then after the scan we went to the movie theatre as we were going to see Warhorse, but alas we didn't arrive until 10.20 am and the only screening was at 10am, so we went back to our friends for mudcake!!! and we brought a watermelon that we bought on the side of the road as well.

We then sat down to watch a movie I had recorded. Hubby saw all of it and I slept through it, then tea and bed so I should be pretty rested today.

We are half underwater this morning. Not right over the crops yet and not right up to next door yet, and hopefully it will start to go down and not come up any further.

I am down another half a kilo this morning. Hubby down .1 of a kg. I have joined the million kilo challenge, however we won't be doing the exercise and the food they are suggesting and at the moment I can't see where you can input anything, so not much in it for me I am afraid.

Financing for stockers?
by JSCATTLE (Posted Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:00:59 GMT)
Massey what kinda credit do you have o have to get that rate. My rate at Agri land is 5 percent and I didn't qualify for young farmer and rancher program with the low interest rate because I have to much credit . Same with Fsa loans .

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IT'S THE PITTS -- WHAT'LL YOU HAVE?
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