IBEEF - Indiana Beef Evaluation and Economics Feeding Program
IBEEF is a steer and heifer feedout program that provides Indiana producers with a way to place cattle on feed and gather performance, carcass, and economic information to make genetic and management improvements in their herd. Cooperators receive individual and group feedlot performance, feedlot costs, and individual and group carcass information, including quality and yield grade, ribeye area, fat thickness, carcass weight, etc. IBEEF also allows producers to compare sires, as well as evaluate alternative marketing strategies and their impact upon profitability. The program also helps to improve the reputation of producer cattle by establishing a database of feedlot performance and carcass merit on their calves.
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Vietnam - Ken Burns Documentary
by Son of Butch (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:03:05 GMT+5)
10 parts 18 hours I've only seen a few hours.
A 10 year 30 million dollar project by Ken Burns. I expected better.
It is not as gripping as I had anticipated, a little bit of a let down, something seems to be missing to me.
cutting vaughns bermuda
by Jogeephus (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 02:26:38 GMT+5)
I've used a Fella conditioner mower for years now.
Cotton is Racist
by Jogeephus (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 02:15:35 GMT+5)
skyhightree1 wrote: But can you please seriously tell me how using a flag that is not this nations flag tell people you are proud to be from the south vs a negative connotation. I know you are very far from racist but I'm asking if folks don't know you can you tell me what exactly would tell everyone else not raised in the south that the flag is just because you were raised in the south ?
Sky that is a good question and I will try to answer it as it relates to me and the people I know. First you have two camps so the sentiments are divisive. In the first camp you have those who believe the War Between the States was all about slavery. I am not in this camp nor do I know anyone who believes this but many of your professors say this is the case. But history also tells us that Lincoln said he would not free the first slave if he could save the union so that argument seems to hold as much water as they saying all the soldiers who enlisted to fight in the mideast enlisted because we wanted their oil.
The other camp, the one I belong to, believes the war was fought for state's rights. Our idea is the country should be a loose coalition of state's with each state having ultimate control of their sovereignty so we wouldn't again fall into the problems resulting from a strong central authority as we did with the english monarchy. So when I see the confederate flag I don't think of slavery but the idea of state's rights and the freedom and voice given its citizens. So when I see some ignorant white trash nazi waving the confederate flag it pizzes me off because they are disrespecting it and the very idea of what it stands for.
by wacocowboy (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:51:21 GMT+5)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-koreas ... 25885.html
Any of y'all starting to get the feeling that we are going to see a mushroom cloud. This just keeps escalating and I don't see a good out come. This is actually starting to get to me. Even if it don't hit here it would be bad for the economy and our jobs.
by Jogeephus (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:42:25 GMT+5)
Son of Butch wrote:wacocowboy wrote:I can't imagine that. Kids now days are so dumb and naive
Children are all born dumb, naive and self centered. It's the parenting that has failed. I blame Grandma.
Dittto. Apple never falls far from the tree.
Half and 3/4 Top Cattle Trailer
by DLD (Posted Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:00:13 GMT+5)
A good place to see what's available and how it's priced is horsetrailerworld.com
You can search by area, and even for a particular brand.
I've often thought that type of trailer would be handy for hauling a utv. They're also good for moving big stock tanks or round bale feeders that wouldn't fit in a covered trailer.
by Nesikep (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:22:49 GMT+5)
1wlimo, a storage tank or big trough is going to be cheaper than the batteries, etc needed to store for night time
Opinions on calves
by Nesikep (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:17:11 GMT+5)
I like the heifer better than the bull.. She is a bit light looking, but if you know her lines and like them, that's important too.. I've had some "modest" looking cows that performed very well. The bull doesn't have the meat and thickness I look for, in his case especially the waist and butt
Why won't my new grapple operat?
by Nesikep (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:55:18 GMT+5)
Glad it's working now anyhow. Your guess of what happened is probably right
by boondocks (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:55:17 GMT+5)
Glad to hear he's home and on the mend! Hopefully he'll have a boring recovery!
Who would use this bull?
by Son of Butch (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:44:56 GMT+5)
Boot Jack Bulls wrote: the contention most have with this bull (his phenotype and "show appeal") is completely subjective.
Exactly the problem with the Show Ring, it is all completely subjective and thus accomplishes nothing.
The only shows of value are the carcass contests, a great learning experience and educational tool.
Carcass contests provide the opportunity to test your subjective opinion of a live animal vs actual measured results.
edited to add:
There is no epd for hair.
Roll-a-bar rake with hydraulic lift?
by dun (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:38:43 GMT+5)
Saw one a few years ago, home made deal. Most poele have no use for a rollabar , that's the only reason I can think of that it isn;t widely available. I was going to set mine up but never got around to it.
by boondocks (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:34:56 GMT+5)
TexasBred wrote:HDRider wrote:I see it as a no lose. They gave up sales tax and property tax, but gain taxes from workers, and workers get money to spend which gens sales tax and property tax.
There should be no corporate income tax any way.
All the states are offering deals like this. It is a good thing,
This has pretty much become the norm. Places not offering these incentives have NO chance of getting any large major corporation to relocate to their area. If it's a viable company with a successful track record the cities stand to make many times the amount of the incentives over a period of years.
Big IF, though, right? http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/states/ohio
Kinda makes for a race to the bottom--states bidding against each other and worker being pitted against worker. And seems inequitable to favor some companies over others. I'd like to see an unbiased meta-study of the extent to which these deals are net-revenue-positive for states. (As you can see from some of the above links, and lots more online, Foxconn does not have a good history of delivering what they promise).
But getting back to the underlying problem, doesn't at least some of it go back to trade agreements that disadvantage countries who pay a living wage and have environmental and workplace safety standards? Why are we putting ourselves in a position to have to compete against people who can and will work all day for a bowl of gruel and a tarp over their heads? (I don't begrudge them the gruel and the tarp!).
Owning a trailer
by Ky hills (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:26:20 GMT+5)
We used to have an older 16' Cherokee brand gooseneck, then got into raising dairy calves, and used a truck topper, then a goat gopher to haul them. Traded down I guess for a newer 16' CornPro bumper pull. It pulls good and is easy to handle. Sometimes cattle get to rockin it and it feels a little hairy goin down the road, but usually it isn't too bad. Goosenecks do feel more stable to me, this trailer does what we need it to though.
Where's TexasBred been?
by papavillars (Posted Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:16:14 GMT+5)
TB, I knew you would be back after you quit picketing to get ride of Sumlin.
Seriously where do you stand on that issue?
EARLY WEANING BENEFITS FIRST-CALF COWS
Summer heat can be hard on pastures, cows and calves, especially first-calf cows. These cows are in a special class as they are still trying to maintain body condition, actively grow, support reproduction by gestating with her second calf, and lactating.
PRODUCT HANDLING IS CRITICAL TO HERD HEALTH SUCCESS
The cow-calf production unit is the basis for the entire beef industry. The production of quality calves requires strict attention to the health of all calves, cows and bulls in the facility.
HYDRAULIC CALF TABLES MAKE LIVESTOCK HANDLING EASIER
Chutes and calf tables have made livestock handling easieron the animals, and for the people doing the job, whether branding, castrating, dehorning, implanting calves, etc.
IT'S THE PITTS -- RATTLED
Despite having lived in, or near, rattlesnake country my entire life I've never known anyone who actually got bit by one, let alone got bit and lived to tell the tale. Until now, that is.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE BUYING BULLS
As the bull-buying season gets underway, commercial cattlemen should do their homework to help ensure the bull(s) they purchase this year meet their needs.
PREWEANING CALF MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ADD VALUE TO FEEDERS
The concept of a value added calf (VAC) program is not new today, but in the late 1980's it was thought to have little value in some circles.
THE WORLD ACCORDING TO HOOTER MCCORMICK -- NO WORSTER
LeRoy was ancient. The lines in his face looked deep enough to hide in. His hair, mostly silver now, was still thick; his black eyes continued to sparkle with mischief.
DO HOMEWORK BEFORE HEADING INTO BULL BUYING SEASON
When it comes to genetics, bull selection is the most important decision the cow-calf producer has to make.
BLACK INK -- WEIGHING PREVENTION
Sometimes it only takes a couple of 2-cc subcutaneous shots to head off problems down the line. Sometimes it takes a few tons of steel, careful planning and focused construction.
WEANING IS CRITICAL TIME IN CALF'S LIFE
As we enter the fall months, weaning time is at hand for most spring calving herds. This is the exciting time of year when producers are able to reap the benefits of a year's worth of work and planning.
FALL CALVING SEASON MAY YIELD HIGHER RETURNS FOR S.E. PRODUCERS
The vast majority of cow-calf producers in Tennessee and the Southeast using a defined calving season have long favored spring calving; however, researchers at the University of Tennessee Institute of Agriculture have evaluated the risk and returns for a fall calving season, proving once again that timing is everything.
HAVING A VACCINATION PLAN IS IMPORTANT TO HERD HEALTH
To begin, I do not believe it is appropriate to recommend "cookie cutter" vaccination programs. Your vaccine program must be developed with your risks and expectations in mind.
PAY ATTENTION TO DETAILS TO KEEP COWS PREGNANT
Getting cows bred is only part of the story. Keeping them bred, especially through the summer months, also takes attention to detail.
START PLANNING FOR HEIFER DEVELOPMENT
Even in this current, somewhat depressed, cattle market, replacement females for the Florida commercial cow herd are an annual expense of approximately $400 million. Development and selection of the best females to join a productive herd is one of the most challenging aspects of a beef operation, and two of the keys for success, not surprisingly, are: 1) start early and 2) have a plan. Weaning time is not far off.
HAVE A PLAN WHEN MAKING CULLING DECISIONS
When culling cows, it is important to have a plan, and this should include pregnancy testing and closely evaluating every cow.